The pastrami always disappears quickly, and I have never gone on to the steaming stage. 1 tablespoons pink salt (aka InstaCure, Prague Powder), 1 whole brisket, around 12-14 pounds, fat cap trimmed to %u215B-inch, 3 tablespoons coarsely ground black pepper, 2-3 fist-size chunks of medium smoking wood, such as oak or hickory. The seasoning will add the taste. Posted Tue, Jul 8 2014 4:33AM, Andrew Worked at Shopsy's deli in Toronto (can hear the Montrealers chuckling) as a kid and ate my share of MSM, corned beef, tongue and pastrami on best rye with 1000 island dressing! Steaming tomorrow morning.One day I shall try the real MSM in Montreal.Best wishes everybody.Posted Fri, Oct 3 2014 10:08PM, Cecilia Ruel I made it to your recipe and it is wonderful. On Amazon there are like #1 and #2 ? YayPosted Thu, Feb 18 2016 2:20PM, Michael I have also made a pork pastrami using methods outlined above and a boneless Boston butt pork shoulder. Finally got the meat up to 170F and then steamed it till 195F. Posted Sat, Aug 29 2015 9:52AM, Bill Demmer ^ I know that will get me in trouble with the hard-core MSM'ers. The second important difference in smoked meat is the rub. Also known as the Montréal Hebrew Delicatessen, it was established in 1928 by Reuben Schwartz, a Jewish immigrant from Romania. Just enough fat and black pepper. Your smoked meat blog posting has encouraged me to do it, and I'm off to fetch a big brisket today. While still a ways off from perfect, more internal fat rendered out, leaving the meat in that state where it's solid enough to stay together when slicing, but tears easily with just a little pull. I have had it for two years now and use it twice a week living in New England. ALso, very nice and detailedPosted Thu, Oct 12 2017 11:01AM, Jack Kirchhoff Josh:I have made pastrami several times on both my Lyfe Tyme hot smoker and my Weber bullet (which we call the R2D2 smoker). Posted Fri, Oct 4 2013 12:00PM, Katherine B I'm Canadian and grew up eating smoked meat whenever we visited family in Montreal. Posted Sun, May 27 2018 12:12AM, Barbara Tried this with eye of round and no nitrate or anything. However, if using a proper cure, after 2 days, there will be enough of the juices drawn out that it will be in a brine (if you put it in a vacuum sealed bag). He is currently NDG living. Published on Tue Mar 12, 2013 by Joshua Bousel, Maurice Looks awesome - which exact "InstaCure, Prague Powder" did you use? Schwartz's Deli. It's not nearly as good as your recipes but it is a nice switch to the standard corned beef without any trouble and it DOES resemble MSM.Posted Sun, Nov 29 2015 12:30AM, charlie wolfe All, I have been buying montreal smoked meat (pastrami) cure rub from Schwartz's in Montreal through mail order. Posted Mon, Dec 30 2013 3:41PM, Smoke Meat Ted Tried this recipe on a small scale (2lbs piece of Brisket) to test it, 4 days curing (couldn't find InstaCure or alternative...so ignored that ingredient), then onto the grill with indirect heat at 225 for 5 hours turning once. There's some debate on whether smoked meat is actually smoked. Coat entire brisket with the cure and place in an extra-large resealable plastic bag. (Note: I pulled my first MSM brisket off the smoker after 5 hours, at which point I had achieved an internal temp of 205). I know for a fact the brisket is injected with the brine, and then sits for 3 days. Up to 10 days. I have to say this recipe is amazing. Just mmmfff deliciousness in every bite. Smoke the brisket for 7-8 hours at 250. I've had numerous reports that the recipe turned out very well. I ask because from what I can gather thus far it is all in the rub...and the smoking gives us moist meat...? I'm hoping to make some pastrami short ribs soon and will try out steaming in on the smoker and see how it goes.Posted Sun, Apr 3 2016 5:52PM, John I made this recently and it turned out great. Hope that method helps you out like it has for me!Posted Wed, Nov 11 2020 7:44AM. The other,,,go to the mall, do whatever and the product is every bit as good,,,, another thing I noticed on here is people changing or not even using the cure,,good way to get very sick, without the cure all you have is a marinated brisket. What do you trim the fat cap to? Mmm, delicious Schwartz’s smoked meat, vacuum-sealed in plastic. Or at least add the steaming technique. I don't have a strong enough memory of Schwartz's smoked meat from our Montreal visit, but I don't remember swooning over my Schwartz's sandwich the way I was over this one. I don't think I'll ever buy MSM ever again. I followed the recipe plus the forum discussion but did the cure for just over a week. Let sit in the fridge overnight and slice the next morningMine turned out awesome although I plan to experiment with longer cook times (and higher internal temps) in keeping with Schwartz's instructions on my next MSM cook.Posted Sun, Sep 7 2014 7:57PM, lewis I am from montreal, and have never found anything remotely close to it anywhere.An important element is the carving. charlie.wolfe@gmail.comI have ordered MSM rub from one of the most famous Montreal MSM delis and analyzed it for spice content, and now I think i have it 90% replicated. Orders under $250 (before tax) will be charged a $25 delivery surcharge. Then wrapped in foil and into the fridge until we had a chance to taste it a few days later. !Posted Fri, Mar 25 2016 11:26AM, Bill Demmer EC, I stand corrected, thank you.Posted Fri, Mar 25 2016 7:22PM, Luis Smoking with friends on a nice day is really good, I cann't wait to do thatPosted Mon, Mar 28 2016 6:35PM, Josh @Chris That's a great idea. Posted Mon, Oct 21 2013 1:43PM, mw @ katherine BCheck into the grillen mates.. they are little cans that you add to a charchol grill that turns it into a smoker.... a mix of that and just charcole might help you outPosted Tue, Oct 29 2013 10:43PM, Kurt I agree with Katherine, Having grown up in Cornwall (45 minutes away from Montreal) nothing beats authentic Montreal Smoked Meat. 1.) Montreal Smoked Meat Montréaler’s love their smoked meat and visitors love its famous deli’s. Lots of reverse flow charcoal smokers have to problem either, basically it's only the electrics that are just over 300, I know none of these temps a required for MSM but your statement is wrong! Montreal-style smoked meat, Montreal smoked meat or simply smoked meat in Canada (French: smoked-meat; sometimes viande fumée) is a type of kosher-style deli meat product made by salting and curing beef brisket with spices. I did it slightly different....using a corned beef brisket...It was fantastic.Posted Thu, Mar 26 2015 9:24AM, Laura Saueracker After finding this recipe I got a brisket with our meat order. ©2021 Joshua Bousel, All rights reserved. Posted Sun, Jun 24 2018 8:50PM, Carlo Hi everyone,I have not tried this recipe ye, plan to do it this week. To die for! Steamed for 2.5 hours. To make the cure, in a small bowl mix together salt, pink salt, black pepper, coriander, sugar, bay leaf, and cloves. All prices listed are delivered prices from Costco Business Centre. They are steamed for around 3 hours.That is the way montreal style smoked meat is made, however I enjoy smoking my briskets and then adding my home made expresso bbq sauce.Cheers!Posted Sun, Jul 6 2014 7:30PM, Tom @StandupforcanadaYes Montreal smoked meat is generally brined, not dry cured. Juicy and yummy.Posted Sat, Sep 13 2014 7:24PM, Ken Davis Hello from Australia. Smoked Meat was on the menu again, for lunch, and Melissa took me to the world-famous Schwartz’s Deli, which is now co-owned by Celine Dion. The brisket was very tender but did not have the classic red color you see in a Montreal Smoked Meat. When I asked what internal temp to pull it off he says they do hundreds of briskets this way and it would be impossible for them to track temperature on so many briskets. Prepare for disappointment. Most of our menu has stayed the same, but along the years now like in Quebec Poutine is very popular so we decided to put our Schwartz's Poutine. If you’re interested in nutrition (and if you’re reading this, I would presume not), one sachet accounts for 35 per cent of your daily allowance of fat, and 46 per cent of your daily sodium requirement. When Angélil and co. start franchising, thus making the Nickels-ization of Schwartz’s complete, then we can be truly pissed off. Maybe cure it for longer. The brisket is allowed to absorb the flavours over a week, is then hot smoked to cook through, and finally is steamed to completion. Wanting to correct that and improve my pastrami texture and tenderness, I set off to try again, but once I had a brisket home, decided to do things a little differently and turn this chunk of beef into Montreal smoked meat. Smoke on!!! Place roasting pan over two burners on stovetop and fill with 1-inch of water. Good Rye Bread, French's mustard, and stacked high, with a great pickle. Too much, and it may taste burnt, even though it's not physically burned. I was curious what this recipe was supposed to say.Posted Tue, Jul 7 2015 9:19PM, Bill Demmer I just got back from Montreal where I enjoyed a Chenoy's sampler platter of MSM. Everything turned out great and I did the preparation and smoking and steaming exactly to your specifications. No cutting corners for me...Posted Wed, Sep 3 2014 11:57PM, charlie wolfe A couple comments here say that Montreal Smoked meat is not a dry rub process--not true--I spoke with Frank at Schwartz's Deli in Montreal when I was ordering my 3 pounds of their MSM rub and he says it goes like this:1. You will never get the real taste of charcoal smoke with an electric smoker. Will the cure give it that red color?2.) Place brisket in a large container and fill with water and let soak for 2 hours, replacing water every 30 minutes. I order mine from Butcher-packer.Posted Fri, Mar 15 2013 9:25AM, Chris I have never even heard of Montreal smoked meat before but it looks and sounds fantastic. The font or whatever shows up on my computer as "%u215B-inch". Did not want to wait any longer so off the smoker and yeah I cheated. My alternative method would be to smoke the meat for 3 hours and finish cooking it in the oven.... warmer too.Posted Fri, Oct 5 2018 12:27PM, Stephen Oliver Thanks. Charcoal smokers,,,waste your whole day babysitting. Plus you have to waste mass amounts of money on smoker pucks where as with a barrel smoker I can use the mesquite I find in the woods ;)Ps: If you live in a cold climate your electric smoker wont last too long running below freezing.CheersPosted Thu, Dec 31 2015 6:15PM, Dan B Darn...and I thought I was set! When you make Montreal Smoked Meat you DO NOT dry cure it, you brine it for a week or more then smoke it. The meat in his pic, though, looks trimmed of fat. If you need 225 degrees or more then the other smokers are cranking which means more air and a cleaner burn thus less smoke and more heat. Thanks! But you aren't competing, so it doesn't really matter. If you are a business you do what you need to do to maximize profit. I recently stumbled upon your pastrami/smoked meat recipe and am very excited to try it. I'd love to make this but will not have access to a smoker, for the smoking step how long would I need to bake it in the oven, and is there a way to jimmy rig some soaked wood chips (wrapped in foil perhaps) in the oven that might add a little of that smokey aroma? Schwartz's Deli. The cure I put together was similar to the pastrami cure, although I held back the amount of sugar. To me that seems wrong, although likely true, but I will never be able to say for sure until I get to Montreal and do my own smoked meat investigation (a very delicious case I hope to tackle some day). Additionally, to vote for your favourite Montreal people and things in the Best of MTL readers poll, click here. My 2 favorites were the Spicy Dry Rub and the Maple-cured, both because of the texture and flavor(there was more mouth feel-not as mushy). I go t a big peace of meat and I will try to smoke it for 10 hours without steaming this time. En raison de la pandémie de COVID19, nous ne pouvons pas traiter des commandes par la poste. !Posted Fri, Mar 25 2016 11:19AM, Ec Bill,,,, your giving bad advise about smoker grills. Posted Tue, Nov 10 2020 3:05AM, Josh @Nancy Bouchard I've actually changed up my method since writing this recipe to one that's easier and has more consistently juicy results. Get it right or risk poisoning your family if you treat your meat like its cured and it's not. 35 were here. Bring water to a boil over high heat, reduce heat to medium, cover roasting pan with aluminum foil, and steam brisket until an instant read thermometer registers 180 degrees when inserted into thickest part of the meat, 1 to 2 hours, adding more hot water as needed. About an hour, but you can go longer5. Strange, then, that the bland meat could use a little salt. I have been cooking on it since Christmas and have been really impressed with the results...I live about an hour outside of Ottawa, so yes, other than this winter thus far, it gets a tad chilly here - I am new to smoking - please impart some advice on this newbie! Tried this last night and it was fantastic!Posted Fri, Jul 21 2017 6:35PM, Pascal I made this recipe with venison and it turned out absolutely epic, less fall apart because of very lean meat but awesome flavor! The last time I was there, in February 2017, my favorite MSM place had closed their doors for good. Place the meat in a smoker for 2 hours with maple wood chips. Posted Fri, Jan 22 2016 7:41PM, Simone Araujo Are the temperature in Farneheit ou Celsisu?Posted Sun, Jan 31 2016 9:38AM, Bill Demmer Since a smoker is used at lower temperatures, the 225 degrees would be Fahrenheit. Will find and buy one because I am sold on smoking! Both injecting the brine and not smoking it are cost saving measures that have been developed because these minor changes don't have too great an effect on quality, and save a lot of time and money. Plus you don't need to baby sit the temp, same with a pellet smoker. Already salivating.I lived in Montreal for most of the 1970s, and spent many hours in Ben's and Schwartz's and other smoked-meat-serving delis. I was about to smoke pastrami in the next week or so but I might have to switch it up now. I stumbled upon your blog today after googling the temperature I should smoke at. One question, though. A few years ago on an offset smoker but have moved to a place with a smaller yard so I now use a Masterbuilt electric smoker. Thanks for the info. Posted Sat, Feb 13 2016 3:10AM, Michael Looks like a great recipe! The cured and rubbed brisket was then hot smoked at 225 degrees until the meat was just cooked through, hitting an internal temperature of 165 degrees. World Famous Schwartz's, serving the best smoked meat from the original recipe of spices since 1928. Lots to learn....Cheers, DanPosted Thu, Dec 31 2015 6:39PM, nate I'd have to say the rub is spot on.... made this on a Weber and ur was amazing! ThankyouPosted Sat, Mar 7 2015 4:23PM, Nate M I filmed a video of this and put it on youtube with a link to your page hope you get some extra traffic from my video (well the video is going live tomorrow night). I think your information will help me a lot. Additional delivery fees may apply, including redelivery charges if applicable. Rather than kvetch about Céline Dion hubby René Angélil’s desire to make a quick buck from the institution he bought last year, I decided the only way I could truly be indignant about this stunning act of sacrilege would be to go to my local IGA, buy a box and to taste-test it myself. Now it's just smoke, and smoke again until I have a pastrami or smoked meat that fully reaches its pinnacle, something I'm determined to achieve over my lifetime. 225C would be 437F... no smoker grill will get to that temperature.Posted Sun, Jan 31 2016 7:55PM, Simone Araujo Thank you Bill Demmer! My concern is that it will be very tough.Any assistance would be appreciatedPosted Fri, Jun 29 2018 8:36PM, Mike Carlo the cure salt gives it the pink color, dark red is from the smoke ring.165degrees and your brisket wont be done.Posted Fri, Jun 29 2018 8:55PM, Grillmaster Yesterday was not the day to make smoked meat, 40F out, but I made a commitment to the family. The cinema company has axed the fan favorite moviegoing experience. Subtle, complex flavor. Just remember to soak out the cure in cold water for 3 hours swapping out the water every 30 minutes. Overall, it was a pretty stellar piece of meat that was an incremental improvement over my first try. Boil — yes, boil — before eating. All good! The only real difference is with an electric smoker you won't get the pink smoke ring. Instead of steaming in a v-rack, when the meat hits 165 degrees F, wrap it in foil and add some liquid in with the foil wrapped meat. Having no real point of reference for the most "classic" rub, I decided to put together a somewhat typical Montreal rub thinking it should fit the bill nicely. YOu basically made pastrami with a brisket.Posted Sat, Apr 5 2014 12:58PM, saif Yesterday i was try this ricipe and find the one thing is that if you put better amount of onion powder then is going to more yummy . I use Traeger pellets when hot smoking and when cold smoking and thy are great. The brisket is then smoked for 8 hours, and finally steamed for three before ready to serve. It was brown like typical "well done" beef. Preparation is also a little less than appetizing, because most of the meat’s juices will come pouring out as soon as you cut open the bag. The Main deli became an across-the-street competitor in 1974. Transfer brisket to large roasting pan with V-rack. It had the firm texture and mouth-feel that I like, and the flavor was bang on to MSM. To make the cure, in a small bowl mix together salt, pink salt, black pepper, coriander, sugar, bay … Flavor being subjective is for you to decide. Both places smoke their MSM from what I can gather.I was lucky enough to receive a Bradley Smoker for Christmas this year! It’s not terrible — in fact, it tastes like your standard store-bought corned beef — but anyone expecting their boiled sammich to taste even remotely like a freshly sliced medium will be horribly disappointed. Best, Dan Posted Thu, Dec 31 2015 5:56PM, charlie wolfe To anyone who is interested in a recipe for MSM rub, let me know via email and I will send you my recipe. My family and I will love it.Posted Tue, May 16 2017 10:48AM, Dave For anyone in Canada looking for Prague powder #1 I managed to finally locate some at Cabelas in the form of Cabelas Speed Cure. Fire up smoker or grill to 225 degrees, adding chunks of smoking wood chunks when at temperature. Buy books, but make something!Posted Thu, Feb 18 2016 2:41PM, Chris Instead of smoking then steaming in the oven have you considered the "Texas crutch"? Thank you Josh! Whether you call it Montreal smoked meat, pastrami or you try bastourmar or pasturma (Armenian and Turkish proto-pastrami) it's all fun and it's all good. Same goes for brining it for 10 days versus 3. My point is have fun trying different methods. I forgot since my first MSM.I read through several recipes for the MSM, and decided to wet-brine for the 4 days, and then marinade in the dry rub, turning twice daily, for 7 days, then smoke for 8 hours, then steam for four hours until the internal temperature reaches 180 degrees F.Today is smoking day for my second MSM. Be careful! The spot is probably the most famous smoked meat restaurant in North America. It can also be served two ways: either by submerging the bag in boiling water for 10 minutes, or by poking the sack and leaving it in the microwave for a little over a minute. You certainly don't treat a pork roast the same as a ham right!! Either way, the result will be the same: waxy corned beef that has none of the spices or consistency of the real deal. Has anyone ever tried ? At this point the brisket was noticeably more tender than my first pastrami, but not quite at that giggly barbecue stage. I used a magnifying glass and was able to analyze what was in the rub, then I was able to replicate it---and I got pretty damned close! Into the house and into the oven. Smoked meat in Montreal is a big deal!There are many delis throughout the city that boast about their famous Montreal-style smoked meat. Not having a smoker I used a gas BBQ with wood chips over the gas, and the brisket on the other side. @MikeBack in the day, Montreal smoked meat was always smoked and the brine was not injected, the meat soaked in it. Transfer brisket to cutting board and let cool slightly. Considered the oldest deli in Canada, this legendary hot spot has been serving preservative-free brisket braised in fine herbs and spices since 1928 and is practically a city landmark. Posted Mon, Feb 1 2016 8:31AM, Handson I was try this ricipe and find the one thing is that if you put better amount of onion powder then is going to more yummy . Still, that cured and smoked brisket flat didn't sit right with me, mainly because of one glaring omission, it was never steamed! But before smoking, I needed to remove the cure and some excess saltiness, which was achieved through a water bath. Our cash cow is the smoked meat sandwich. :-) What would you recommend? Posted Thu, Dec 31 2015 6:30PM, Dan B Hi Tom - Thank you!! Thanks!Posted Thu, Mar 14 2013 10:00AM, Josh @Maurice It's Prague Powder #1. A Jewish immigrant from Romania, he was the original founder of the iconic Schwartz’s Hebrew Delicatessen . It is unbelievably delicious!Posted Tue, Dec 3 2013 10:21PM, Tom My understanding is Montreal institutions cure it for much longer. I would suggest a three hour soak not two but maybe it's supposed to be that salty. When making pastrami, this is where the process stopped. Note, it includes the pink curing salt AKA Prague Powder #1 which is necessary for the curing to take place.Posted Thu, Dec 31 2015 6:02PM, Mike @ Dan BI wouldnt call owning a bradley smoker "lucky". Posted Mon, Jul 24 2017 11:31PM, Sex video website I made this recipe with venison and it turned out absolutely epic, less fall apart because of very lean meat but awesome flavor! Place in the coldest part of the refrigerator and cure for 4 days, flipping brisket twice a day. This pastrami was perfectly cooked, very tender yet resilient. Schwartz’s Smoked Meat Pouches, 6 × 175 g . For those of you that don't have a grill/smoker, you can cheat by buying a bottle of Colgen's Liquid Smoke(I use Hickory). BTW i love your blog . Thanks for the recipe.Posted Sat, May 31 2014 5:26AM, Marg I mixed my curing ingredients in water and brined my 6 lb brisket for 5 days then rinsed well, applied rub, wrapped in foil and cooked in oven 12 hours. The Montreal Smoked Meat Sandwich’s tall stature is as Canadian as it gets. But as smoked meat took over Montreal (with more delis opening up in the city's urban core and beyond), Schwartz's would remain king. As for whether the meat was actually made at Schwartz’s, the box says it was “prepared for” the iconic deli, so probably not. Remove brisket from bag and wash as much cure off as possible under cold running water. I just looked up the a-maze-n pellet smoker - first I have heard of it. Here's the video -https://youtu.be/HPe2RvBfC9UNatePosted Thu, Dec 31 2015 8:02PM, Guadalupe I have just bought a smoker a few days ago, I am not sure how to use it in the right way, your tips are very useful for me, thanksPosted Wed, Jan 6 2016 1:34AM, Robert Smoked meat always sounds interesting to me. Delicious! Smoking meat using a charcoal smoker costs a lot more than baking it. Schwartz’s At Home vacuum-sealed smoked meat, sold in grocery stores next to the hot dogs, has been mortifying Montrealers for less than a week. 1Posted Sun, Nov 29 2015 8:56AM, Dan B Being from Montreal, I have only eaten at places that have bags and bags of charcoal...there is a great place opposite Schwartz's on the Main. It took about 6 hours to reach temperature then a couple of hours of steaming. Then it is spiced and cooked in ovens WITHOUT SMOKE! You essentially have to shake the remaining liquid from the meat as it spreads its wings from its plastic-sealed dungeon; otherwise, you’ll end up with a wet piece of rye. So I accordingly started this off with an entire brisket, and it just happened the only one available the day I went to the butcher was a 16lb monster. In contrast to the overpowering spicy pastrami rub, the diverse Montreal seasoning created a more nuanced flavor that let the meat stand out, while still providing a robustness. The A-Maze-N smoker tray is fantastic! I ordered the platter with medium fat(they have 3 grades). 3895 St Laurent Blvd, Montreal, QC H2W 1X9 514.842.4813 World famous Schwartz's, serving the best smoked meat from the original recipe of spices since 1928. !! While some smoked meats will have something similar or the same as the black pepper, coriander, and garlic mixture of pastrami, there's more variation from one smoked meat joint to the next. First is the cut of meat—smoked meat is often made with the whole brisket, letting customers choose between the fatty deckle or the more lean flat, while pastrami is usually just the brisket flat or beef plate. Rafael Payare to replace Montreal Symphony Orchestra conductor Kent Nagano. Le Maitre D’ is proud to offer a signature recipe prepared by one of our third generation butchers. FadelPosted Tue, Sep 29 2015 2:39PM, David Nitrates in the cure keep the meat red.Posted Fri, Oct 2 2015 8:34AM, Bill Demmer Another good brand of Liquid Smoke is Wright's.Posted Fri, Oct 2 2015 12:07PM, Ben Don't shoot the messenger, but a quick and easy version is to buy a corned beef (point cut) and cover with water in your crock pot. Imagine walking through the door and taking a step back 80 years into "Main Street" history in Montreal. I have followed your recipe to a tee...the meat has been in the smoker for 7 hours and is now steaming....keeping fingers crossed that my New Years guests enjoy...this backyard chef is a little nervous about the final product! (He says it can sit as long as 13 days but not longer.)3. Schwartz’s World Famous Original Smoked Meat has been pleasing customers since 1928. In the past, I smoked the brisket, uncured, to an internal temp of 205 but did not steam it. Was stunning! For $11, you get four sealed pouches, although you’d probably need to use one-and-a-half pouches if you wished to reach the height of a restaurant-sized sandwich. Pink sea salt is not a substitute for cure, neither is any other kind of salt, it must be cure and it goes by a few names and comes in a #1 or #2. !Posted Fri, Nov 8 2019 3:20AM, James Balicki I've been using your recipe for the last 3 years - I'm from Quebec and this has always beaten Schwartz's and Reuben's by a milePosted Tue, Jun 9 2020 2:49PM, Joshua Bousel @James Wow, bold statement. The best delis in Montreal for smoked meat you need to try. In a couple of weeks, I'll be visiting Montreal again, I'll stop over to Schwartz's for lunch while I'm there. This was because I skipped the final step—steaming. We marinate the briskets for 10 days and then we smoke it our smokehouse is back here for approximately 8 to 9 hours and we have the exact same recipe since 1928. That's what I use when I'm cooking a brisket like a brisket. I also 2 charcoal smokers (an offset and a Weber smokey mountain). I think The MES with an a-maze-n smoking tray is better because on 1 lb of pellets (about $1), you get 11 hours of smoke. Also, I would swear that there was a hint of vinegar flavor in the MSM... maybe in the brining to tenderize?Posted Sat, Aug 29 2015 9:53AM, Bill Demmer Correction on the spelling of the brand name for Liquid Smoke: ColginPosted Sun, Aug 30 2015 11:56AM, Jeff Dupuis I tried my very first brisket thanks to you. I know when making pastrami, my brother trims the fat cap off. Or do you have any suggestions ? I also decided to ditch the Morton Tender Quick and do a mixture of pink curing salt and kosher salt instead. Others say that Reuben Schwartz put Montreal-style smoked meat on the map. This post, however, focuses on the battle of Schwartz’s Deli and Main Deli, which are right across the street from each other on St-Laurent Boulevard.. Thank you for your advice! I have been smoking for awhile. Schwartz’s At Home vacuum-sealed smoked meat, sold in grocery stores next to the hot dogs, has been mortifying Montrealers for less than a week. However, like my back ribs, it took some time and lots of meat before I perfected the process - keeping fingers crossed! It was so popular that it was copied by other Montreal delis and steakhouses. Refrigerate, turning the brisket over 2 times per day for 8 days. Certainly not kashrut but fantastic! Did not need to steam - was fall apart tender and oh, so good! Add liquid smoke and slow cook for 8 hours. Rub the brisket with the MSM rub and let sit in the fridge for 5 days undisturbed.2. The results spoke for themselves. 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